[转贴]Has Anyone Seen Vertumnus?（宿命点相关）

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Has Anyone Seen Vertumnus?（宿命点相关）

Has Anyone Seen Vertumnus?

Considering the Vertex in the Natal Chart

有人注意到威耳廷努斯(掌管四季变化、庭园和果树之神)吗？

在本命星盘中考虑宿命点






Most astrologers who have ever lived spent their entire careers without taking into account the vertex. This node-like point was not postulated until the 1930's-40' when L. Edward Johndro coined the name. He, and his followers, did attribute significant meaning to the vertex, although Johndro apparently grappled with its relative value more than once. Is the vertex really effective? The following article invites students to consider this question, experimenting with their own charts to find answers for themselves.

很多职业占星学家在他们占星生活的有生之年都没有探讨过宿命点。直到1930's-40'这个点才被Johndro正式命名，他还有他的追随者发现了宿命点的重要意义。





What is the vertex?





The vertex is a theoretical point in the heavens where the ecliptic-the apparent orbit of the Sun around the earth-crosses the prime vertical-the plane that runs at right angles to the meridian and divides the celestial sphere from front to back. Already, it sounds fishy. A theoretical point?





The vertex/anti-vertex is only theoretical to the degree that the Ascendant and Midheaven are as well. The Ascendant is the point were the ecliptic intersects the horizon (instead of the prime vertical). The North and South Nodes of the Moon, also points of theoretical intersection, are found were the path of the Moon rises and falls across the ecliptic. They are all illusory because there is nothing really out there at that point in space-no fixed star, no asteroid, no planet-not to emphasize that the ecliptic itself is the imaginary path of the Sun around the earth.

宿命点是一个理论上的点，并不真实存在，就像上升中天或者月交点一样，宿命点与反宿命点只是意义上的点，并不存在这样一颗小行星，或者恒星。月交点是月亮的运行轨道同地球的运行轨道有两个交点，北交点被称为北交点，南交点被称为南交点，上升点是东方地平线和黄道带的交点，而宿命点就是主垂圈与黄道在西方的交点。还有就像月交点有南北一样，也有一个反宿命点(Anti-vertex)在黄道的东方与宿命点对称存在。





Illusory or not, the vertex falls on the western side of the chart, with the anti-vertex found exactly 180 degrees away, on the eastern side. As with the Ascendant and Midheaven, an exact birth time is necessary to calculate the vertex. There is no point working with it unless you have one. That is the first rule.

不管是不是幻觉，宿命点落在星盘的西边，反宿命点与它成180度，出现在东边。就像中天与上升一样，计算宿命点位置时，准确的出生时间是非常重要的。





What does the word vertex mean?





The word vertex comes from the Latin root word vertere, meaning to change, to turn, turn frequently or spin. It also can mean a crowning point, summit, top or crest. Words having this Latin root include vertebrae, (joint, having something to turn on) vertigo (dizzy, disoriented, spun out) vertical (from top to bottom) versatile (doing many things at once, to turn from one thing to another) and verticil (a circular arrangement around a fixed point, a whorl). The common theme here highlights change or movement, from one point to another, where the center remains fixed or the same.

Vertex这个词的意思

Vertex这个词是拉丁语系过来的，原词是vertere，意思是去改变，频繁的转换。也表示了最高点，顶峰。





Can mythology reveal anything about the vertex?

宿命点的神话





Yes. The Roman god Vertumnus has roots in the Latin word vertere, to change, turn or spin. Vertumnus was a lesser god of gardens, fruit trees and seasons. Youthful and alluring, he had the power to change himself into various forms, just as the seed changes from root, to branch to leaf to fruit. Vertumnus used this ability in his avid pursuit of the goddess Pomona.

威耳廷努斯是一个掌管四季变化、庭园和果树的小神，年轻迷人，他可以改变自己的形状，就像种子发芽，或者水果长出树枝。他爱上了果树女神普玛娜。





As the myth goes, Vertumnus fell in love with a strikingly beautiful goddess (in some versions nymph) named Pomona. Although she rejected all suitors, he fed his passion with the sight of her by changing his form and passing her gardens daily as a soldier, a harvester, a fisherman, etc. Ignoring him, Pomona remained devoted only to the cultivation of fruit trees. Vertumnus persisted and one day he altered his form to that of an old woman, greeted her with a passionate kiss, and proceeded to enter her gardens.

果树女神普玛娜对所有求婚者都报以拒绝的态度，为了能每天见她一面，威耳廷努斯每天不断的变化自己的外形，今天变成一个士兵，明天变成一个农民，后天变成一个渔民，等等。可惜的是普玛娜每天致力于培养果树，从来没有注意过他。直到有一天，威耳廷努斯不在躲在一旁，变化成一个老奶奶，走进了她的花园，并用一个热情的吻问候了普玛娜。





Vertumnus, (as the matron), talked to the goddess, attempting to convince her of the rewards of relationship and the dangers of rejecting love. The qualities and integrity of the youthful god Vertumnus were discussed. Finally, "she" told Pomona the story of a young man who cruelly took his own life after being spurned by his hard hearted love. He told of how the gods turned the rejecting woman into stone, but still Pomona was not persuaded.

化成老奶奶的威耳廷努斯与普玛娜聊天，努力让她认识到爱情的价值，和拒绝爱的种种危险。威耳廷努斯给普玛娜讲了一个关于年轻人被自己狠心的爱人抛弃，最后天神把这个狠心的女人变成石头的故事，但是即使这样也无法让普玛娜意识到爱的重要。





Finally in exasperation, Vertumnus dropped his disguise and stood naked before Pomona in his true form. She thought she was seeing the sun immerge from behind the clouds and in the glorious light of Vertumnus, she opened her heart and reciprocated his love. Together still, they attend the gardens and fruit tress of the countryside.

最后恼怒的威耳廷努斯，脱去伪装，显现出他的真面目，太阳见到威耳廷努斯的光芒都躲进云彩！好夸张啊～羞花闭月罗马版～～她看到如此英俊的威耳廷努斯，就受了他的爱，并和他一起管理着花园。





The theme of this myth centers on a seemingly chance moment where an outstanding event occurs. To Pomona, it was like an epiphany, a sudden turn of fate, a radical awakening of perception. To Vertumnus, it was at first a well planned strategy, then finally an act of spontaneous desperation. Imagine his surprise when Pomona finally received him!

神话表面上的主题就是突然的变化，对于普玛娜来说是一个突然的命运的转折，一个感知上的更本转变，而对于威耳廷努斯开始是一件计划中的事情，处心积虑要搞定普玛娜，但是事情的发展却让他几乎绝望，但是，让他不敢想象的是最后本能的举动竟然让普玛娜接受了他～





Love, relationship and union are highlighted here, not just in the desire of Vertumnus, but also in the story he told of the young man's rejection and the tragic consequences that followed. The imagery of the gardens, fruit and vine add to the feeling of ripeness, an event finally ready to happen, a fruitful experience.

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How significant is the vertex astrologically?



宿命点有意义吗？











Here lies the debate. Some well-versed astrologers will say the vertex means relatively nothing. Others will say it is a point of great significance. If it does have meaning, what is it?












这里有不同的观点，有人认为宿命点有重大意义，有些人却认为没有：）












The vertex appears as a sensitive point linked to fateful encounters with others, seemingly sudden epiphanies, turning points in life and a destiny over which we have no control. Activated, it can synchronize with an experience of another whose effect registers as some degree of profound or extraordinary.



宿命点是一个关于遭遇宿命的敏感点，生活中的转折点，或者难以控制的定数，





















A strongly placed natal vertex (conjunct the horizon, in close aspect to a personal planet, in a critical degree or in the degree of the nodes) can indicate more consistent results.



宿命点强有力的位置（合地平线，与本命行星合相，或者紧张相位，或者与月交点合相，最能发挥作用。












What activates the Vertex?



什么激活了宿命点？












Three things can trigger, coincide or activate the vertex: transits, people and places.



三件事情可以激活宿命点，行运行星，人与位置。












Transits to the vertex can bring inner and outer events corresponding to a pivotal point, significant encounter with another or a sudden change of perception. The transiting planet activates the symbolism of the vertex, coinciding with a major or minor event. Keeping orbs tight and sticking mainly to the conjunction will bring more consistent results. A transiting conjunction from Mars would likely be more noticeable than a transiting trine from Uranus, although sometimes that is not the case. The magnitude of the effect depends on the prominence of the vertex itself, its relationship to other factors in the chart and the occurrence of other transits, commensurate or disparate. Along with transits, students are encouraged to consider progressions, converse progressions and directions.



行运行星经过宿命点时，能给人带来内部外部的改变，遇到另外一个人，或者对事物认识的突然改变。限定容许度在一个比较小范围，会带来更准确的结果。与行运火星的合相会比与行运天王星的三合相位更加有力。到底会发生什么级别的改变取决与宿命点本身，还有本命盘上与它相关的因素，还取决与行运行星与它的相位，大家不光要考虑行运还要考虑正反推进与向运系统。












Meetings with significant people, as seen through synastry and composite charts, may also link strongly to the vertex. (Think of people as constant transits.) When one person's inner planets or asteroids (Sun through to Jupiter), angles, nodes, vertex or certain Arabic parts conjunct the vertex, there can be a feeling of fate, destiny, rightness or wrongness about the encounter. Something in the contact with that person may have the ability to create profound change in the native, over a long or short period of time. The change may be perceived as pleasing or acrimonious, the conjunction often reflecting the former, the opposition the later.












通过观察synastry盘和组合盘，发现遇到一些特别的人一样能够触发宿命点的能量，（就把这个人的行星看作行运行星）当一个人的内部行星或者小行星，四角，月交点，宿命点或者某些阿拉伯点和宿命点合相，就能感觉到命运的力量，就会有各种好的或者不好的遭遇。当你遭遇到<敏感詞>人的时候，在一段或短或长的时间里面，也许自身会受到深远的影响。也许你会觉得这是一段辛酸或者快乐的日子，合相常常反映不同于从前的感受












Our location on the planet can awaken the vertex as seen through relocation charts and astro-carto-graphy. When we relocate, the vertex may become more prominent by changing house or aspect to an angle. The relocation vertex can signify places where meaningful encounters of a particular nature seem to happen more consistently.



当我们改变居住位置的时候有可能会激发宿命点的力量，当改变了居住地点后，由于宿命点的宫位还有与四轴的位置发生了改变，就非常有可能发挥更大的作用，宿命点可以意味着一些地点，意味深长的遭遇，一个特别的天性，看上去象很自然的一样












What about the sign and house position of the vertex?



关于宿命点的星座和宫位












The house positions of the vertex/anti-vertex can offer clues as to where we may experience turning points, meetings with destiny or fateful encounters in life. As noted earlier, the vertex falls usually between the fifth and the eight house, on the western side of the chart, with the anti-vertex 180 degrees opposition.



宿命点与反宿命点的宫位能提示我们会在哪里经历人生的转折，在哪里遇到命运中的定数与宿命。就像之前提到的，宿命点一般落在星盘的西边，第五到第八宫之间，与反宿命点成180度对等。



In the fifth/eleventh house axis, there could be a propensity to experience fateful romantic or creative encounters (fifth house) through contacts with friends or groups (eleventh house).



In the sixth/twelfth house axis, the turning point, or spin out, could effect our day by day living,



or our link between psyche and soma (sixth house) through contact with those in the helping professions,



those less fortunate or through dreams and creative fantasies (twelfth house).












In the seventh/first house axis, sudden epiphanies could radically effect socially significant partnerships (seventh house) through an experience of projecting ourselves out into the world (first house).



In the eighth/second house axis, destiny may arrive in the form of an erotic encounter or intense research (eighth house) perpetrated by a desire for pleasure, security or peace (second house).



宿命点落在第五/十一宫头，一般指会与朋友或者在所处团体（十一宫）中遭遇到一段宿命性的情感或创造性的经历（五宫）。



宿命点落在第六/十二宫头，意味着转折点，或者拖延点，能够影响到我们日常的生活，



或者意味着通过帮助那些弱势群体，或者通过做白日梦或者幻想来连接我们的灵魂与肉体。



宿命点落在第七/一宫头，突然出现的事件能从根本上影响自己重要的<敏感詞>关系。



宿命点落在第八宫头，宿命的感觉可能性爱的，或者渴望体验快乐，安全，平和，



The vertex/anti-vertex by sign can signify the way we may experience activation to this axis. Aries/Libra could indicate issues between personal will and sharing, where



Taurus/Scorpio may be about security verses risk.



Gemini/Sagittarius could contrast knowledge and vision, where



Cancer/Capricorn could emphasize protection verses enterprise.



The Leo/Aquarius axis might highlight self-expression as opposed to group participation where the Virgo/Pisces might compare structured boundaries and limitless longing.












宿命点与反宿命点所在的星座，表示我们体验这个轴力量的方式。



白羊－天秤 分享或者个人独享问题，



金牛－天蝎 关于安全与冒险的问题



双子－射手 知识与先知对比



巨蟹－摩羯 强调的是保守与进取心



狮子－宝瓶 自我的表达与群体分享的对立



处女－双鱼 约束性与无限的渴望之间的对比



Conclusions:












The vertex is a point in the horoscope that can indicate a sense of destiny working through another person or outstanding event. It may be stimulated by transits, progressions or directions, other people (synastry/composite) or a change of location. The house and sign position can offer clues as to where the change or turning point may take place and in what way. All students are encouraged to watch the vertex in their own charts, determining for themselves the relative value. After all, we never know when Vertumnus might enter our garden in the guise of someone else, offering an unexpected turn of fate!



结论：



宿命点在占星中是能够预示与<敏感詞>人或者显著事件之间关系的一种感觉的点。它可能被线路，行进或者方向，人们或者位置的改变所激励。宫和符号的位置则提示在哪里可能有改变或者转折，以什么方式。鼓励同学们观看自己的星盘，以确定与自己相关的事情。总之，我们不知道什么时候威耳廷努斯会假借谁来到我们的花园，告诉我们命运的逆转。